Hazmat suits from fetish to fashion

In my view the rainwear and hazmat communities are closely related, or at least they should be. In many cases a hazmat suit is very similar to a rainsuit: the materials, the fit, and the purpose of protecting the wearer. The hazmat suit would maybe best be described as a further iteration of the rainsuit, where the coat and pants are no longer separated, gloves are attached, boots are integrated with the suit, and the wearer gets facial and breathing protection as well. The overlap in communities is maybe best illustrated by the work of Greenjoker, who I have interviewed previously based on the picture below, where models wear very similar looking heavy-duty rainwear and hazmat suits in regular indoor settings.

Greenjoker girl in heavy PVC rainwear tingley rubber

Or of course Rainweargirl, pictured below in a vintage Russian chemical suit giving full rubber protection with some added straps to increase the enclosure experience.

Hazmat is short for “hazardous materials”, but different terms are used for similar suits in different countries. The most common terms are CBRN (chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear) suit, NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) suit, Zodiac suit, radiation suit, or ABC (atomic, biological, chemical) suit. In this article I will not further distinguish between these specific terms as they are so closely related. Besides a short history of the hazmat suit, I will further focus on the fetish community surrounding these suits, the fashion aspect, and finally some personal perspective on why this is an interesting subject even though the focus of this site is on rainwear.

HISTORY

It is difficult to pick an exact point in time when the first iteration of the modern hazmat suit was created. One of the earliest times when people would wear specific full body coverage suits to protect themselves against biological agents was over 500 years ago. Plague doctors in the 14^th century, who would be tasked of visiting plague victims and trying to treat them, would don leather oilskins and put on a mask to protect themselves from catching the disease as that would mean an almost certain death sentence back then. Bacterial infections were not understood too well and doctors followed the Miasma Theory of disease which posited that disease arose and spread through bad air. The bird masks had a practical reason: there were holes at the front of the beak through which the wearer would pull the air into the mask, and the space in the beak was used to stuff it with sweet-smelling pomanders or perfumed rags to convert the “bad air” with the aromatics. Compare it to a modern gasmask, where the wearer has a mask covering their face and air is pulled through a filter to purify it. Below a poster depicting a plague doctor anno 1656.

Centuries later, during the Manchurian plague of 1910, a better understanding of bacterial infections was created when Malayan Dr. Wu Lien-teh developed the theory that the plague was airborne and spread like a flu. He proposed all medical personal to wear gauze facial masks but mostly received ridicule from his peers. That quickly changed when a celebrated French doctor operated a plague victim without a mask to prove doctor Wu wrong and died several days later. From then on facial masks became standard equipment for medical staff. Below a picture of plague workers in Manchuria (source) showing different types of crude face masks.

Only a few years later the Great War broke out and similar facial masks would become a necessity for frontline troops to stay alive. On April 22, 1915 at 5PM German specialist troops released chlorine gas from underground canisters during the Battle of Ypres. The effects were devastating and a British officer described the effect of the gas on the French soldiers as: “a panic-stricken rabble of Turcos and Zouaves with grey faces and protruding eyeballs, clutching their throats and choking as they ran, many of them dropping in their tracks and lying on the sodden earth with limbs convulsed and features distorted in death.” To protect themselves from the effects of chlorine gas troops would use rags soaked in water or urine which they would tie around their nose and mouth to survive a shelling with poisonous gas. Below a picture of Belgian troops during the Great War wearing very simple facial masks to protect themselves against gas attacks. Source wikimedia commons.

An arms race developed to invent new poisonous gases and protect troops against whatever the enemy came up with. At first the equipment was crude: pads of material soaked in chemicals to neutralize the gas and goggles to protect the eyes. Following iterations became more advanced, protecting against a wider range of gases as well as supplying enough oxygen to the wearer and avoiding the eye-protection from fogging up. The game changed further when mustard gas was first used effectively in 1917, again near the town of Ypres. This gas would easily penetrate clothing fabrics like cotton or wool and would have extreme blistering effects on the victim. Thick garb or sealed protective suits with a breathing apparatus were the only way to protect oneself against mustard gas. In 1915, when poison gas was relatively new, less of 3% of the troops exposed to gases died, but fatalities jumped to 17% when the effectivity improved. By 1918 this figure dropped back to below 3%, mostly due to the invention and distribution of protective equipment. Below the range of gas masks developed during the Great War, showing the many iterations ranging from complete hoods to simple filters one would wear in front of their mouth combined with a nose clamp. Source wikimedia commons.

With the outbreak of the Second World War there were justified fears poisonous gases would be used again. Both sides in the conflict prepared their troops for possible poisonous gas attacks by equipping them with gas masks, and due to mass production even civilian gas masks were produced and distributed in urban areas that would be likely targets for the enemy. The British government endlessly instructed its citizenry to carry along their gas mask as the enemy would give no warning. At regular intervals drills were held where citizens were told to wear their gas masks for a period of time and governments would even go as far as dispensing tear gas in neighbourhoods so people would make sure they had their mask on correctly. Picture below of a gas attack drill in London in 1941 (Eric Harlow/Keystone/Getty Images).

Further protective gear was handed to civilians in special roles, like police officers and members of the Gas Decontamination Squads which were specially trained to respond to the use of hazardous chemicals. In case a bombing with chemicals took place they would be tasked to remove the hazardous materials from the street, either by neutralizing the threat or washing it away, and signal when the threat was away so other civilians could safely leave their shelters. The nature of their tasks demanded further protective gear. While their protective suits would mostly resemble regular rainwear available today, it were one of the first hazardous material suits for civilian use back then. Pictured below a member of the Civil Defence (the W on the helmet stands for “warden”) wearing protective clothing issued by the government. The suit includes a hood to cover the head, a standard issue helmet, a gasmask, and gloves to protect the hands. The rattle shown is to signal civilians of the danger.

The choice of gear can be explained by the availability of products and materials during the war. Several rubber factories in the UK had government contracts to produce well over a million rubber boots which were distributed to the troops. Civil Defence Organisations received the same wellington boots as they were widely available and offered the best protection. The suit itself was not made from rubber though, as the supply of rubber was rather limited during the war and already necessary for producing other items for the war effort. During the forties the availability of plastics was also limited, meaning going back to “old-fashioned” oilskins, mostly in use within the fishing industry, made sense. Regular cotton garbs could be impregnated with oils making them waterproof and gas proof. Chemical workers and soldiers tasked with handling chemicals on a more regular basis would have access to the more costly rubber suits which would offer more protection and which would not have to be disposed of after use. There are pictures online available of rubber chemical suits used during the war, but I will not be publishing them here as they are closely linked to the worst atrocities. Instead a picture of a British decontamination suit, complete with rubber Wellington boots and very large and thick rubber gloves. (Source)

In 1945 the Second World War ended without poisonous gases having been used in battle at any point even though both sides had plenty of stockpiles. The development of protective suits for the military continued with new conflicts on the horizon, but a new market was developed by introducing hazardous material suits for the civilian sector. The target audience would be workers in the chemical sector, crews tasked with the clean-up of hazardous materials, those working in clean rooms, firefighters, EMTs, etc.

GRADATIONS OF COMMERCIAL HAZMAT SUITS

With hazmat suits becoming commercially available a clear distinction becomes necessary to distinguish between the level of protection different suits offer. Generally 4 levels of hazmat protection are used, ranging from a Level A suit which is the pinnacle of protection, to a Level D suit which offers some degree of protection against for example heat or airborne debris.

Level A hazmat suits

These possibly extremely costly protective suits are meant to completely encapsulate the wearer and protect them from any outside materials. The suit is completely sealed meaning you will need a breathing apparatus with compressed air to stay alive inside the suit. The suit will have gloves and boots attached, a large window on the front, and it will be huge to fit in both the wearer and the compressed air bottles carried on the back. The process of putting it on, performing specific tasks in the oversized suit with thick gloves on, and cleaning its surface before taking it off to avoid contamination make it extremely unpleasant to wear, especially in a warm environment, as sweat will start pouring out within 10-15 minutes of the zips closing. Below a Saint-Gobain ONESuit Pro Level A chemical suit available here.

Level B hazmat suits

A level B hazmat suit might look quite similar to a level A suit, with the biggest visual difference being the breathing apparatus not being contained inside the suit. The level of protection is lower but it is generally much more comfortable to wear and since the wearer does not have to be sealed inside the suit, or completely decontaminated before taking it off, there will be more time to actually perform the tasks at hand before the suit becomes uncomfortably warm. That would also mean a smaller amount of compressed air can be used, as the canister can more easily be exchanged, resulting in less weight to carry around on your back. Below a picture of what looks like a classroom exercise to get familiar with Level B hazmat gear.

Level C hazmat suits

The level C hazmat suit is the most used type of hazmat suit, and includes any type of full body protective suit without a self-contained breathing apparatus but where a simple respirator with filters will suffice. These types of suits can give protection against airborne contaminants, biological agents, chemical agents, and certain types of radioactive contaminants. Below a lady in blue hazmat gear, as the mask has its own filters this outfit will fall in the Level C category.

Level D hazmat suits

The D level of hazmat suits offer the lowest level of hazmat protection. These suits will offer protection against heat or airborne particles and the basic gear of firefighters would fall in the level D category. Below a picture of a Canadian firefighter in standard issue gear (source).

In the selection of which level of protective suit is needed for a job there is a balancing act between protecting the health and safety of the wearer with “efficiency”. A higher class of suit will offer more protection, but it will be very costly to purchase, it will take considerable time to put on and take off, the wearer can only keep it on for a limited time before it gets too hot, and doing any job in a higher class of suit will take more time as it is harder to do anything with so much suit around you. Below a picture of the process of taking off a Level A hazmat suit by the US Air Force (source). Before the seals of the suit can be broken the outside has to be decontaminated by two people in Level B hazmat suits on a specially prepared tarp so no contaminated water can seep into the ground. The process of taking off a Level C or Level D hazmat suit is much easier, as you can do that by yourself and simply dispose of them or store for later use.

In general the lightest, easiest to work in suit that offers enough protection for the wearer would be the choice as to avoid unnecessary enclosing the wearer too much, limit sweating, and let them experience their surroundings as much as possible so it is easier to work.

FETISH

One area where the complete opposite is often the goal is within the fetish scene. Here the wearer often wants to be enclosed in the hottest and thickest suit to build up a sweat, feel enclosed, and experience sensory deprivation by wearing multiple layers or even blacking out the visors of the mask. As Rule 34 states: “if it exists, there is porn of it – no exception”. Actually, to my surprise, the fetish scene for hazmat suits is quite lively, diverse, and extremely interesting.

The attraction of hazmat suits

The visual appearance of a hazmat suit will make a lasting impression on many. Especially the higher levels of protective suits are interesting due to the bright colors, the shiny material, and how it hermetically encloses the wearer in the suit. Add to this the dangerous situations that would require wearing such a suit, and the brave soldiers or firefighters donning the suit to protect civilians. Below a picture of an American firefighter chemical unit practicing in their bright yellow Level B hazmat suits. The beautiful fit of the suits, combined with attached gloves and boots, and a full-face mask that regulates the breathing, make this a very appealing picture. Where uniforms are generally seen as attractive already, it is hard to not be intrigued by this gear.

A further in-depth discussion on the attractiveness of hazmat gear can be based on an article published by the British kink magazine Atomage. While the article focuses on gas masks, it applies just as well for hazmat suits.

Enclosure

One of the attractions of rubber gear, raingear, and gas masks is the feeling of being enclosed in the material. But where some outfits do cover the complete body, real enclosure with the wearer being hermetically sealed from the outside world is only reached by wearing a level A or B hazmat suit. The differences might seem small: pulling down the draw strings of the hood of your rainwear over a gasmask gives the impression of being sealed in, but with enough movement you will notice there is still airflow possible. This will be different with a hazmat suit, resulting not only in a different feeling of enclosure but the suit warming up quicker as well. And this seems one of the often mentioned goals within the hazmat community: keeping the suit on for as long as possible in uncomfortable situations and breaking a sweat. Wearing a complete hazmat suit for an extended period of time would be a challenge already, but some combine it with exercising indoors or having get-togethers outdoors on a warm day while combining it with a hike through nature. Below a picture of a fully geared person riding an exercise bike. In all fairness this picture is most likely a genuine practice picture for firemen to get used to wearing a hazmat suit while doing their work, but it is interesting from a fetish perspective as well.

The feelings of enclosure can be further enhanced by adding straps or ropes to press the materials against the body, black-out the visor of the mask so the wearer can’t see anything, or even cover the ears to further limit hearing. With 2 senses artificially deprived, and smell and taste not giving any signals, the focus would quickly be on the feel of the material against your body, the smoothness of the inside of the rubber gloves, and the sweat accumulating under the suit. With the right stimuli new heights in pleasure might be reached, as some describe in online communities.

Controlled breathing

Both level A and B hazmat suits make use of compressed air breathing masks, which can be an experience by themselves to wear already. While modern breathing systems require only limited effort to get a breath of fresh air, it will put a focus on the breathing pattern when having the mask on your face. You will need to breath in and out more consciously and especially the sound you will hear can be very exciting. A level C hazmat suit will make use of a stand-alone filter system like a gas masks with a canister attached. Here also the sounds of breathing will be amplified and the wearer will be kept aware of the mask by the extra effort it takes to breathe. Below a screenshot from a Fetisheyes clip showing a lady in what looks like a German military rubber Zodiac suit (source).

Even for your partner the controlled breathing can be interesting. With the breathing pattern becoming so audible it becomes more obvious what the effects of certain actions are and how close one is to reaching peak enjoyment.

The feeling of the material

Wearing a hazmat suit is much more interesting for anyone who gets triggered by the touch of the materials the suit is made off. Older hazmat suits can be made of rubberized materials which have a very intriguing feel, but even more modern suits made out of PVC can be very stimulating against the skin. And in most cases the face mask and the gloves are made from rubber. Maybe the rubber of the mask will only be noticed when just putting it on, the rubber of the gloves are often more noticeable as your fingers move around in that thick rubber layer. The experience can get even more intense when you get hot as the sweat will make the rubber lining even smoother and more sensual. Below a picture of a gasmask with rubber hood after intense use showing the sweaty rubber inside.

Appearance

With a hazmat suit covering your body from top to toe your appearance will be completely changed. For many people the change in appearance is one of the biggest attractions of the hazmat suit, especially as a suit still follows the general contours of your body while morphing you into somebody, or something, completely different. Compare that with wearing a simple rainsuit; it protects you but you probably still feel like the same person. But with a hazmat suit on, being completely enclosed and anonymous in that suit, you can be whoever or whatever you feel like at that moment, and do things you would otherwise not dare doing.

This probably also explains the popularity of Level B and Level C hazmat suits over Level A and Level D suit. Levels B and C include a facial mask that hides your identity and the overall suit covers your body, while a level A suit is often too bulky to not feel like a person in a limited area that moves around you and a level D suit doesn’t cover your face leaving your feeling of identity intact.

Protection

Obviously a hazmat suit will offer the wearer a feeling of protection. But while protection is the single most important reason for the existence of hazmat suits, the protection is less often cited as a reason to put on a hazmat suit. Not many people who are active within the hazmat community will have access to dangerous situations where a hazmat suit is needed, although some might enjoy testing the protection by showering, going out during the rain, or enjoy entering a small lake or puddle of mud to feel the materials getting pressed against their body.

An interesting observation regularly made is the contradiction of the necessary protection a hazmat suit would offer in the worst of circumstances, like after a chemical disaster or nuclear explosion, and the pleasure someone experiences doing certain activities in such a suit. The worst of situations for the world versus the personal pleasure of being in your own small protective environment experiencing everything a hazmat suit has to offer.

The hazmat suit community

My first guess was that the hazmat suit community would be rather small as most people do not come into contact with a high-grade hazmat suit at any point in their lives, purchasing one would require a relatively large investment with Level A suits sometimes costing over EUR 50.000, and someone would have to go out of their way to find a place that sells them. A hazmat suit could possibly best be considered a final station in a journey of exploration with experiences and materials which starts with uniforms, rainwear or gas masks. But to my surprise the community is not only relatively large, it is also very active. Let’s go through some of the possible reasons that explain this.

Depictions in the media

While it might be uncommon to come across a hazmat suit in real-life unless you have a dangerous job in a chemical plant or as a firefighter, you have probably seen them in the media multiple times. Besides the occasional news broadcast covering a chemical accident or research work on biological materials, hazmat suits are regularly shown in series and movies. A hazmat suit is the perfect tool to set the atmosphere in a scene, where the actor is wearing a body-covering protective suit to protect something the viewer cannot see: a dangerous disease or an invisible force wreaking death and destruction. One of the first movies extensively showing its actors in hazmat suits is the movie “Outbreak” (1995) where army doctors are struggling to find a cure for a deadly virus spreading throughout a Californian town. To protect themselves against the dangers they wear yellow hazmat suits and a helmet with visor to which clean air is supplied through a canister on their lower back. Picture below: Peter Sorel/Warner Bros/Punch Prods/Kopelson/Kobal/Rex/Shutterstock

The hazmat suits for this movie were custom-made by costume designers from “Globaleffects”. One of the main issues with readily available hazmat suits is the fact the breathing apparatus will cover most of the face of the actor making it hard to express emotions. With this design the complete face is still visible. The choice of the yellow color of the suit is nothing extraordinary for a hazmat suit but the main reason for yellow was probably that it sticks out in crowded scenes making it easier for the viewer to track the main characters. While the suits have been rented out for many other productions ever since, and got damaged in the process, the helmets from the movie are still in use with for example the shootings of “Stranger things”.

Another notable movie with several hazmat suit scenes is Arrival from 2016. In this movie alien aircrafts arrive on earth and scientists try to learn how to community with the aliens to figure why they came to earth. Here the director chose for Level A hazmat suits, covering both the person and the breathing apparatus. These suits have a large visor and in combination with the open-face mask worn under it the audience is still able to see the complete face of the actors in scenes. The bright shiny orange suits make an interesting contrast in scenes where the actors approach the aliens in a dark room with the light coming from behind the aliens, as shown below. The suit worn by the main character was later put up for a charity auction.

The HBO blockbuster series Chernobyl is another recent source for people interested in protective suits, as in many scenes the actors were dressed in historical Russian gear. The disaster at Chernobyl took place in 1986 and the only available protective gear back then was USSR military grade respirators and protective suits. Below a scene from the series showing the old gear which best resembles a rainsuit combined with a gas mask. In this series the makers went for historical accuracy meaning the impressive and almost scary look of fully geared soldiers are almost anonymous with their face-covering protective masks. The threat of the invisible radiation mixed in with the people exposed to the radiation getting sick and dying put the rubbery gear in a completely new perspective.

Photos and art available online

There are basically three sources of imagery available online that may raise the interests into joining the hazmat community. Ranked in order of “innocence”:

1. Training and practice pictures

While most would hope to never get into a situation where wearing a hazmat suit would be necessary, as that would imply chemical warfare or a disaster situation, it is necessary to train personnel in the use of these suits to keep them prepared for if it ever happens. It is not only workers in laboratories, chemical plants, firefighters, rescue workers, and military personal regularly training with hazmat suits, in some countries even civilians seem to get basic lessons in war-preparedness which involves hazmat suits. Below a picture of what seems to be a hazmat practice setting with Eastern European hazmat gear. Many similar pictures are available online which makes me think it is part of drills done by students to get accustomed to putting on the gear and wearing it. With the availability of mobile phones it makes for the perfect situation to pose for pictures.

Pictures of more professional gear can often be found on social media with firefighter hazmat teams and soldiers from around the globe who share information about the drills they are conducting regularly. Especially these pics can be quite interesting with Level A or B hazmat suit being used in simulated disaster situation. With nobody being hurt and little risk it is easier to enjoy the sight of the quality gear. And the combination of relatively fit people working in jobs that are often seen as “heroic” does speak to the imagination.

2. Artistic illustrations

The contradiction of arousing gear with the deadly surroundings is made easier when shown in an artistic way as it removes the idea how it would really be to be in that situation and creates a complete fantasy surrounding. On sites where people share artistic illustrations the hazmat suit regularly pops up, in a completely innocent form as well as in more erotic depictions with tighter fitted suits worn by attractive men and women (source of illustration below is in the bottom left of the illustration).

3. Hazmat community member material

And of course there are plenty of pictures available from community members who share pictures of their gear and them wearing it. Here the wide range of gear clearly becomes visible, with people showing vintage and modern suits combined with masks, breathing apparatus, and other items to complete the look. Below a practical application of hazmat gear in a regular household setting which would make cleaning the bathroom much more enjoyable.

You will also be able to find picture of community meetings, where likeminded people get together, gear up, and engage in activities. The goal often seems to be to get out in nature and simulate situations where the need to wear hazmat gear for extended periods of time is necessary. Compare it to military drills but then performed by civilians who just want to experience wearing the gear.

Finally there are also commercial sites that cater to the hazmat community, as shown in the picture above which appears to come from PVC Dreams. The experience of wearing this gear would be close to wearing real hazmat gear, but it leaves from freedom to add zippers at strategic places, use materials that are more sensual, or make it fit better. Below another example of more military style hazmat gear probably from PVC Dreams as well.

And finally there are content creators who regularly combine vintage or new hazmat gear with attractive models for pictures of videos. Fetisheyes.com would be, together with PVC Dreams, one of the biggest producers of high-quality hazmat related video and photographic material which even includes Level A hazmat gear, something that sounds hard to make sexy (source).

Low barriers of entry

One would expect the hazmat community to be relatively exclusive with Level A gear reaching prices of EUR 50.000 and more, and even level B gear requiring a breathing apparatus which has little use for most outside of this interest. But there is actually a relatively low barrier of entry with mostly older military gear selling for affordable prices online. Below an advertisement from ebay for a German military “zodiac” suit in “mostly new” condition. Notice this is an almost complete suit that just requires the purchase of a gas mask as it already includes boots and gloves. The sales price of this suit is a mere 59 euro’s which makes it a cheap and simple way to experience total enclosure in a rubber suit. This particular seller has already sold 86 of these suits through Ebay, indicating there is quite some demand for this kind of product. Similar military gear is easily available from other nations giving ample opportunity to find something that matches your taste in looks and material.

FASHION

Strangely enough it is actually possible to write about the fashion of hazmat suits, mostly because of the recent start of the pandemic that made people find novel ways to protect themselves. Especially when people have no other choice than be in the close proximity of others some took it on themselves to fully protect themselves from contamination. Below a picture of Naomi Campbell at the airport donning a hazmat suit and face mask, which would fall in the Level D category of protection. Notice that while the suit covers her almost completely it still looks rather fashionable due to the fit and the combination with the black sneakers.

Similar suits were used by medical personal and flight attendants to avoid catching the virus in the early days of the pandemic, but here costs and effectiveness probably overruled the fashionable aspect meaning more wide-fitting gear so one size could fit all. Below a picture of a Qatar flight attendant wearing a protective suit supplied by the airline so staff could be protected and flights could continue.

Luckily the pandemic turned endemic over time and no requirements for hazmat suits were ever enforced on a broad scale. If it had ever come that far I would have at least hoped they would mandate PVC or rubber suits that are reusable, as to limit waste of course.

PERSONAL VIEWS

It is hard to deny the whole hazmat scene and community intrigues me. The gear can closely match regular rainwear combined with rainboots, rubber gloves, and a gasmask, but it just has that bit extra by having it all integrated. With an active community it would be interesting to create content and read more about the history of certain gear and the materials used; some people seem really specialized in vintage gear and if every part is completely original or not. It actually makes me envious there also is an art scene active within this community, something that I always felt is missing within the rainwear community as it is a way to communicate more of the feelings and atmosphere than would be possible with pictures. Below the furthest I’ve come to the hazmat suit experience with raingear, rainboots, industrial rubber gloves, and a gasmask with hood.

An often repeated scenario within the community actual does tickle my imagination: a situation where wearing a hazmat suit would be mandatory, let it be because of a disaster or activities in a dangerous environment, and everyone is completely geared up and sealed in for an extended period of time. Of course the lead person in the story would be secretly enjoying it. The idea of the necessity to wear it for an extended period of time, with no way out and being in that situation with people you fancy sure sounds interesting.

The main deterrent of exploring hazmat gear in person further at the moment is twofold. First of all I am actually enjoying the non-transformative nature of rainwear where I feel like the same person when being geared up. I have described it previously as sort of a superhero feeling to be able to go through rain, puddles, and mud without it having any effect on me. While the experience of putting a gasmask on and adding gloves is interesting, I do not fancy incorporating that too much in my activities. I can imagine this might be different when you share it with a partner and are out to reach new heights though.

Second, what I enjoy most about rainwear is the ability to wear it outdoors during the rain and just be in the moment. A hazmat suit would only be wearable in private, as I hope there will never be a time when needing to dress up in hazmat gear outdoors will be necessary. On the other hand, 59 euro’s for a rubber hazmat suit is an attractive way to see how I will like the experience. Maybe I will start hazmatpassion dot com in future, who knows.